A few days ago Google announced its App Engine, which lets folks build applications that run in Google’s cloud. Amazon has for a while had a number of services to let folks run applications in Amazon’s cloud. But in both of these cases, one must use their proprietary APIs.
For example, Google provides a datastore API that applications must use to persist state, while Amazon similarly provides a simple DB API. Amazon’s services are generally lower-level and easier to adopt ala-carte, while Google provides one-stop-shopping. Either way, one’s application code becomes dependent on a particular vendor. This is in contrast to most web applications today, where, with things like the LAMP stack, folks can build vendor-neutral applications from free (as in beer) parts and select from a competitive, commodity hosting market.
As we shift applications to the cloud, do we want our code to remain vendor-neutral? Or would we rather work in silos, where some folks build things to run in the Google cloud, some for the Amazon cloud, and others for the Microsoft cloud? Once an application becomes sufficiently complex, moving it from one cloud to another becomes difficult, placing folks at the mercy of their cloud provider.
I think most would prefer not to be locked-in, that cloud providers instead sold commodity services. But how can we ensure that?
If we develop standard, non-proprietary cloud APIs with open-source implementations, then cloud providers can deploy these and compete on price, availability, performance, etc., giving developers usable alternatives. But such APIs won’t be developed by the cloud providers. They have every incentive to develop proprietary APIs in order to lock folks into their services. Good open-source implementations will only come about if the community makes them a priority and builds them.
Hadoop is a big initial step in this direction. Its current focus is on batch computing, but several of its components are also key to cloud hosting. HDFS provides a scalable, distributed filesystem. It doesn’t yet meet the high-availability requirements of cloud hosting, but once folks who need that help to build it, it will. HBase provides a database comparable to Amazon’s Simple DB and Google’s Datastore API. It’s still young, but, if folks want, it could become a solid competitor to these.
Moral: if you want commodity cloud hosting, pitch in now.
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June 21, 2008 at 11:33 pm |
CouchDB maybe?
July 12, 2008 at 11:59 am |
Too bad i didnt come across this blog before. Great stuff you got here. Thanks.
July 19, 2008 at 6:28 pm |
Nice post, you got some good points there – thank you.
July 22, 2008 at 3:11 am |
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October 20, 2008 at 8:31 am |
Nice article. Thanks. :) Eugene
December 7, 2008 at 9:58 am |
Nice post. Thank you for the info. Keep it up.
April 9, 2009 at 5:57 am |
hi, nice post. we are building a search website (using lucene) which would have around 1TB of data (pdf files) to be indexed on day1. Please suggest on the scalability and performance for search.
April 9, 2009 at 9:38 am |
Kranti: Solr cluster + distributed search.
April 13, 2009 at 11:31 pm |
Hi Otis, Thanks for the reply. simple lucene implementation (may be a cluster) + distributed search wouldnt work? we have to implement solr?
April 14, 2009 at 5:08 am |
Kranti:
Oh, it would, it’s just that Solr will make it easier. Katta is another option for you to look at.
April 15, 2009 at 5:30 am |
I just watched Doug Cutting presentation video (http://research.yahoo.com/node/2116) at Hadoop Summit-March 25, 2008 and boy-o-boy does this guy need to go back to school and learn how to be a speaker. He maybe a brain on computing but ummm auh auh ummm that is it. It got so bad I had to stop it.
May 3, 2009 at 12:29 pm |
Hi Otis, Thanks for the message about solr and katta. i shall check them in detail.
May 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm |
We already conduct an online search for our clients but wish to investigate having an actual searchengine designed to work with our service. Can anyone recommend someone that might be interested in this project?
June 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm |
Sounds like a superb idea! I hope this gains traction. Would really love to see this grow into a level playing field, with no walls and glass ceilings. Definite potential. Hadoop Hadoop oh Hadoop!
August 11, 2009 at 9:29 pm |
I think the common API can be kind of ODBC API the can access different databases.
Then every projects can build on the common API.
It’s a great idea which need to and will be considered later by the vendors.
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Great article. I couldn’t agree more with you. It’s true, cloud computing is the “unix revolution” of the 70/80. From now on, every one should start to think in the future of it.
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